Been working on quite a few things the last week. Some new exciting features and some changes that some may not be too happy about, but necessary. Sitting tight? Here goes!
UGC Card changes
For those that use the Ultimate game cards you can now see some new packs as well as the monthly packs I added to the Paypal page a month back.Metal Man II & V quest II
As you've probably already noticed there is a new V quest (ha) and a new Metal Man (Grim) quest. I wonder what he's building?Rank Up notice
You no longer level up automatically per se. When you complete a battle, hunt, quest etc it checks if you have more blood than your max and gives you a rank up notice and then ranks you up. The blood bar no longer stretches over the limit if you have more blood than blood max.Drop down menu edits
There has been a couple very small changes to the drop down menu, one of which is explained below.Inventory
For reasons explained below there is now a new inventory section. Which in its first stage, doesn't do a lot. You know when you send gifts to each other? Well now you actually get the gift. They'll be stored in your inventory. In the future more things can be added to store in there & quests can be spawn from this. You can hold up to 50 items at this time.Bank Interest changes
I've made some changes to the bank interest system. Because of abuse of the interest system I've made the interest rank based. The interest is still 1% a day, and every day at the main reset you get the 1% added with the new caps (explained below) and a news notification to let you know how much you earn. Oh, and you must have at least $100 in your bank to get any interest.Rank Interest Cap
1-9 $1,000 (First $100,000 gets interest)
10-19 $10,000 (First $1,000,000 gets interest)
20-29 $20,000 (First $2,000,000 gets interest)
30-49 $30,000 (First $3,000,000 gets interest)
50-74 $40,000 (First $4,000,000 gets interest)
75-99 $45,000 (First $4,500,000 gets interest)
100+ $50,000 (First $5,000,000 gets interest)
For example, if you're rank 20 you'll be in the 3rd tier, which means you'll get a cap of $20,000 interest a day. Which means that if you have $100,000 in the bank you'd get $1000 interest. If you had $10million in your bank you'd get $20,000 because only the first $2million earns interest.
VIP members get a + 20% bonus after caps
VIP+ members get an extra + 10% bonus after caps
(25% total if you have both VIP days and VIP+ days)
So using the example above and you're rank 20 (and you have VIP and VIP+ days) with $10million in the bank you'd earn $20,000, then + 20% ($4,000) and then +10% ($2,000) which gives you a grand total of $26,000 daily interest.
So the maximum interest you can earn (being rank 100 and having VIP and VIP+ days) is $65,000 a day.
This will also give another incentive to rank up. Obviously a lot of people won't be happy with this because the majority of people will be getting less bank interest. But at the end of the day, its FREE money you're getting from the system. So some better than none right? Rank up and get more :)
Blood Letters V3
Blood letter changes! A complete overhaul of the blood letter system that will come to a shock to start with (it is different!) but once you play around with it for a while you'll learn to love it like we do. Sitting tight?
Blood letters v3 works on a 'thread' system similar to the forum setup. When you send someone a blood letter for the first time it creates a new 'thread' between you and the person you just sent a blood letter too. The message than appears on the blood letter homepage as it always has, but when they click it will it take it to the thread you started. At that point they can reply to the thread that adds a message into the thread itself which then sends you a notification (like before) of a new message where you can view the reply. The messages you send will have a dark background and the messages you receive will be a lighter coloured background so you can quickly and easily tell the messages you sent.
Blood letter homepage works like the news page, the messages you see are not the actual message like before, they are just notifications of a new thread or new messages in a current thread. If someone adds 3 messages to a thread before you get chance to look at it again you will get 3 notifications on the blood letter homepage even though its 3 messages added to one thread. In this scenario when you click on one of the unread notifications it will mark all unread notifications linked to that thread as read. Notifications on the blood letter page can be deleted but the actual thread messages CANNOT be deleted. They are deleted automatically after 30 days of inactivity (subject to change). So it does not matter if you're not using the thread anymore, just delete the notification link to it and forget about it.
Saved messages work the same, threads cannot be saved but individual can be, click the save image next to the message itself.
Sent messages has changed a bit, they work on the notifications, you can still see if a message has been read or not. You can no longer mark a message as unread, but you can flag them by clicking "Flag messages" when viewing a message thread. You can now longer view the message that was sent, only the subject and whether its been read or not. Messages will no longer disappear if the receiver deletes the messages, although you won't know if they deleted it, it'll stay marked as read. Unfortunately, you can longer search by message.
The old blood letters can still be accessed via the link at the top of the page for a couple weeks. Unfortunately saved messages cannot be transferred over. So if you have any messages of importance, you'll have to transfer them over manually. Some of the automated services (i.e. new player welcome bl) will be transferred to the new over the next day or so.
Gift Shop changes
As said above, gifts are now sent to your inventory with a news notification instead of just a blood letter, so you'll no longer see blood letter notification of gifts from the gift shop.The bank interest, inventory & blood letters are running in BETA just in-case any bugs find their way to the surface or I have to make any necessary changes.
As you can see, lots of changes! Gonna relax now and have a drink. Next month will be a cool month, with lots of Halloween events. Next month hopefully we'll do a review of the coven wars & a couple other features that need improving.
Post feedback or ask questions on any of these updates here
Post any bugs here
Thank you!
Enjoy,
Ash
172 comments:
The Interest changes is the worst thing youve come up with by far. Thats basically not giving younger ranked members a chance to save money. The 1 percent was bogus to begin with. This change is terrible.
This is a good idea. i think you should keep the BL's this way.
very nice good Job keep them coming Ash
first. good job ash.
Nice =)
fucking gay ...was this another dumb spot idea
*rage* bad bank idea. i like the gifts and bl's tho
will like it when I see a new letter as I was about to read a bl but now dunno if my sent one was read or if my friend worked out where it went lol
Wow the blood letters really were a shocker at first Ash! Over all looks great! Good work!
-†Fairah Montalvo Outlaw†
WIll the old BLs get deleted?
LMAO I love the first comment <3 and reading all the hate comments hehe.. It's good for the game, plus like he said, you're still getting free money either way...Deal with it ;)
Great changes. I just don't agree with the interest. It really is a dumb idea imo
I love these changes! I've been waiting for a thread-like-system for the blood letters! Great job Ash!
Your bank interest idea seriously sucks, and I also agree with the first comment. Especially way to REALLY screw over new members. -_-
When you first start the game the first thing you do isn't start saving money by taking advantage of the interest system so STFU haters =D
This entire thing reeks of Spot. It seems like the King Dipshit of Reign of Blood had this groovy idea that, since he is poor in the real world as well as on here, he might as well find a way to make others suffer. Possibly the worst idea/addition to RoB thus far Ash and that includes the entire creation of Spring Valley. I hate it, the only half-assed idea in this thread is the new Blood Letter system. One question though; Will this be a debatable event int he forusm to vote whether to keep or discard this? If so, I begin the notion. Yes, I am Anonymous to anyone who reads this to avoid being banned by a pissy Spot, insulted by Ash/Spot acolytes, and overall destroyed. Don't like it, sue me.
everything good apart from the bank interest, that was a bit wrong. but apart from that well done
The New Blood letter system looks good but will need to see over time how it works,,, I lost a Blood letter as I was in middle of one when you did change... :(
The Bank interest is bad.. as I used it to help myself build up my buying power $$ to get AP etc.. now it will slow down for Low ranks and myself as we will find it hard to build up bank money to buy.... older players (high rank) will have advantage over newer players...
The other changes look real good the gift shop inventory is great too...to be able to see what you have got over time....
To the haters.
Bank interest is NOT your main source of income. Go battle & earn money! The more you battle the more you rank & the more interest you will earn. It's a simple system. The average banked money per rank is similar to the caps so overall it makes no difference! With low rank players hoarding interest for higher rank players brings to much money into the game, interest is not built for that.
Interest is FREE MONEY! How can you complain you're getting less free money? I could just remove bank interest all together. Want more interest? Rank up :)
And FYI Spot had nothing to do with this, it's funny you assume he did! =D
Thanks guys!
its not about us being haters, fact is everything is ok barring the bank. so stop being a brown nose an agreeing with everything ash does
The only thing I don't like is the new BL system.
lol The BL change is awesome. I met my girlfriend just over a year ago while using this site. and after a month or so, we moved somewhere else to talk because of the messaging system. It's kind of funny actually. The site we went to to talk is abbreviated BL. XD
And for the interest, I think that sucks. This pressures people to level up, and when people level up so quickly, they can't work on skills as much as they need, so older people to the game can pick them off easily.
Ash, the whole bank system sucks now. And i was having trouble before to get my money up to date. I found battling was my only way, until certain people started telling me of other ways. No. This one is actually really bad.
300+ days old, i only have close to two mill in the bank. Nice going ash, you really are making things Rank based now.
Well Spot, King of Dick-Sucking has almost everything to do with every other shit-ass idea we get along as well as the root of all fucking hatred in the game besides all of Zephyr's haters and their endless drama-spree.
As I said before Ash, this is stupid. Yes, I am grateful for the free money and this sounds like an ungrateful cunt-faced series of posts but honestly, for those of us mid-leveled who are comfortable here this drains out business transactions we used interest for, our ability to get AP and the constantly-raising plasma quickly, our entire financial game-play experience.
The blood-letter system, the gift-system, and other mini-updates seem good, even the Metal Man but this new interest is just a giant pile of shit in which you have dumped upon us and left us to crawl out of. And Rank up as a solution is suicide for us who do not pump plasma to fill your pocket and be like Pyro, Zephyr, prettyhatemachine, and so many more. I am sorry I do not have a $100,000+ per-year income to fund your bills, your trips to America because you get bored, etc. This whole ordeal is fucking stupid, an epic fail in the beautiful history of Reign of Blood.
All I can say is I am sad to see the beginning of the decline of player-friendly game-play and more towards strategic-based game-play based on the man with the biggest Real-life pocket in the lead.
If it aint broke dont fix it. This game is really going down hill. Some of us worked really hard to build our money to the 5 or 6 million mark but oh well screw us!!
These new blood letters suck. Take them away NOW please. Thank you.
Bank interest is a free gift to you. It's not been around long. I'm sure you wouldn't want me to take it away completely, so these changes have to be made.
for what reason?
I really couldn't care less about the interest system cause I never worry about money, I'll eventually earn enough to upgrade my rubies and so on so no great issue for me.
However, I really dont like the new BL system. I mean I'll likely get used to it, but at the moment I just dont like it.
As for anyone whining about interest changes. You know where the door is.
yeah it sucks, its bad but wel get over it.
instead of being negative about it, give some suggestions of maybe earning bonus interest? Hmmm
*Notice the name-change, I am still the angry, trolling "Anonymous".
Well said above (If it isn't broke, don't fix it). How many complaints had you received about this system? What motivated you to spontaneously change it after having it for the time we have? How much could $60,000 per-day hurt the game cash-flow Ash, really?
This is about like giving us a fucking horse as a "gift" and then telling us we can't ride it, only stare. Why do we not have any say in this at all? Why is this a 100% dictatorship? why does your Staff have no say or we even have some form of elective staff to attempt to give it a player-based edge in some areas instead of instatly things you assume would be best. In the current method 9/10 times you will not revoke your decision despite the negative feedback due to never being wrong, meanwhile if we had some form of fucking government it would be a little better. THESE are the god damned changes you should make but you're too busy checking Pay-Pal and running your hands through Spot's hair as he fucking BLOWS YOU.
God dammit how much to I have to troll and bitch and rave to get some kind of response more than; "It's a gift, blah blah, be happy or else, blah blah"? No, I do not want the entire system taken, but fuck sakes give us our money back you bloody dictator (pun)!
Ash... Dude... I just bought a gift and yada-yada-yada..... dude... I have -100!!!!
I love the new interest system... but a new metal man and v quest? SCREW YOU!!!
P.S. @ Amber.
Fuck you bitch, everyone has a fucking opinion and we have a right to stay in the game and express it. You don't want to see the whining, don't fucking read it you sour-fucking-cunt. You fail, shut the hell up, go play Call of Duty or some shit.
Times the amount of people will 6mil by $60k, a hell of a lot.
As you can see, i let you guys have a say in a lot more shit than other people do. There are some things for the GAME that needs to be done, this is one of them.
Doesnt matter how much his customers hate it,how loyal we have been or how much money he has made off us. Ash is going to do what he wants. Doesnt matter if we like it or not.
-points back to my post.-
Fixed. Yay.
ASH TAKE OFF THE NEW BL SYSTEM I HATE IT
Okay, at least I got a somewhat decent response from you on that and not a broken record. Now we can be civil.
In response to the new Interest, could there be some ways for lower-ranked users to earn gold other than the bank, battling, work-place, market, lottery? No, I do not have any current suggestions but you could think of them, you think of all of this and I am sure hundreds of other players could think of something (I am too set in Troll-mode to think).
And we might have a say in a lot Ash, but honestly why are some systems like the ACT so one-sided, with no court just a VERY-limited jury? Why do we get no sense of voting on new things, not to per-say dictate what you can/cannot do but to at least influence them before they are dropped on us? I just want some equality, not only with the features but with everything.
I am drawing a blank at this point, I just am going to not bitch and moan right now and just follow with the questions above. I am sorry for the radical behavior and all (to a degree) but someone had to stand up more than just "This sucks".
@Anonymous... so? I love it. It's pretty cool and its a rad design... so shut up, you simple minded freak.
This new bl system looks like a copy cat of other games Ive played. Lame.
High rank players will love the interest changes.... all the rest of us think it is a complete douchebag move. How can a paltry 60k interest per day be "abused"... whatever, this is not one of your better ideas... keep changing shit Ash, you'll be here all alone one day wonder what happened.
yep its crap.. dont like it leave, find a new game, like ash said think of a new way to earn bonus interest, if not then shh, get over it an grow up, i think you should take the bank interest away completely ash, an let the spoilt brats get over it with no extra money. stop throwing your dummy. winge winge winge
Kiss ass
-sigh- If ya'll don't like it. Leave. Go cry to your mommy's about how RoB sucks... I personally like the game. But hey, I'm just 1 person.
Fang..Pull your head out of ash ass you brown nosing moron
BL System: Give it a chance people. The older players didn't like the system he just ditched until we used it.
Interest: FFS that's what covens are for. You need money to buy rubies borrow it from your damn covens. Do NOT Piss him off to make him say fuck it I'm taking it away altogether.
Gifts: YAY!!! I've been wanting to see the gifts for ages. That was SO confusing when I first started.
Now for all you ungrateful anonymous assholes: STFU and go play Neopets if you don't like the way he runs things.
And lay off Spot. Just because you don't like him, doesn't mean he should be beaten up everytime you don't like something.
* walks off muttering * Stupid shits
Nice comeback, effing noob.
But kudos on the come back.... -clap clap clap-
Guess what fang there are more and more players going to another game. See how ash likes it when its just him and his ass kissing crew left
@ Ass-Kissing Anonymous;
Same to you as to Amber (see post above). We can say whatever we want just as you can, called an OPINION. If YOU don't like it, don't read it and go about your merry-fucking business.
"Spoilt brats"? First, learn to spell you illiterate kiss-ass. Second, go buy a roll of Bounty tissue to wipe the shit-stains from your lips, they stink.
Bonus interest + more ways for lower ranks to earn a couple extra bucks is a possibility. This is just the first version of interest changes, remember that.
FYI just because people are saying they like it does not mean they're brown nosing, they have an opinion just like yours. Keep the insults down though please.
No its not. There are some people who hate the game, still playing because of how they can keep touch with their buddies on here. And uh.... what OTHER game is better then this one?! XD
thats true you can already see by the voting system that robs going down hill
We've nothing but rise in voting ranks...
yeah thats how you spell it you prat
@ Guildy;
I expected more from an actually intellectual player who has seen radical changes through their life-time on Reign of Blood. Then again, we are talking about one of the "featured quotes" of the Reign of Blood homepage who probably had to beg for the spot.
"Played the rest? Now play the best. Great community, good battles. Plenty of quests, never boring. " - Guildy the Snow Leopard
@Fang
Once you get out of the hospital for having your stomach pumped from all of Ash's sperm in there, you can start anew by making your way through Spot, Saturn, Judas, back to Ash, and then, finally to me. I'll even get you a shit-flavored condom so you can do two things at once.
Seriously guys, I'm going to close comments if you carry on. Please calm down.
Fang Marose-Angel said...
@Anonymous... so? I love it. It's pretty cool and its a rad design... so shut up, you simple minded freak.
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Guildythewicked said...
Now for all you ungrateful anonymous assholes: STFU and go play Neopets if you don't like the way he runs things.
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But its ok for them to insult the one who disagree with you by all means. Right ash
I'm talking about everyone.
ash jus close it an let them deal with it an put it on suggestion board or something, they aint coming up with any ideas, jus bitching
Wow. All I have to say.
Hey revive-interest. awwwww, diddums. Put your pacifier back in and go have a cry in your cot, you little child.
*rolling on the floor laughing at your weak sauce attempts to insult me*
Points to the door. There it is, boy... :)
why dont you all stop moaning an come up with ideas an work as team to better rob
Hey Ash, what the heck is up with the navigation bar on the site?
lol revive dont know what a spoilt brat is
Hey haters, try making an awesome MMORPG website and THEN you can complain about Ash is doing. He can't please everyone!
Oh so we arent allowed to complain ember? This is a praise only board right??
ash man! i didnt think id like the new bl thing but i freeking love it its awsom. not to happy about the intrest thing but hey thats bart of life and as you said free money is free money. lol! so all you out their stop your complaining. it could be worse their could be no intrest. lol! oh well. and the girt shop thing.....dont know. kind of weird but oh well.
ppl stop complning just shut up, Leave if you dont like Ash new system, I agree with Ember he can't please everyone
i think that this is wonderful ash! u have been busy busy busy!!! i dont have a problem with any of this new updates :) keep em comming!
and u lil run at the mouths - stfu and play the game or dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!!!
Yeah you can complain, but do it politely and not insult everything somebody says/does.
What good lord? The Christian God? Bah, that is fucking funny. Give me proof that he is real, much less can close a door you fucking bible-thumping idiot.
P.S. Interest system sucks more dick than Aftershock Spot in heat.
Whether you agree or disagree with Ash's decision's Its Ash's game. He is the creator and owner. If you don't like it then go create your own game, go join another game, or just go get a life. I'm not trying to add to this dispute. I'm just stating fact. Have a nice day! :)
Some people dont understand the concepts of idiom and jargon, it seems, pointing to the anonymous who's takes the 'lord split ya' comment too literally.
Is that what you want ash all of us who dont like it to hit the road? Am sure we would like to hear it from you instead of your flunkies. I see they are still insulting ...and looks like thats ok by you. Nope not one sided here at all.
Jesus, there is a lot of debate on this..
I like the new bloodletter system to be perfectly honest. It seems simpler, once we get used to it.
Since it's the only thing that is getting discussed as well (Apart from the quests, but I bet you can all guess what I think about them. Goddamn V)I shall put my view on the interest system. I relied heavily on the interest before, because I was training more than using the turns to battle. But I can see how this could benefit the majority. This is a game, not just chatrooms and shit like that. One of the game's main features is battling. Fair enough not everyone does it, but if you don't battle then why should you get the same as someone that does? When battling you earn money, and blood to rank up, which in turn gets you more money in interest, and in a kill. If your not going to battle, don't complain that your not getting enough interest. That's my two cents.
Good job Ash btw, just to let you know ^^
I still hate those quests though..>:[
what a bunch of no life internet geeks lol, go the owner show them whos boss
I'm not telling the nay-sayers to leave, just to be a little more polite. Ash puts a lot of work into the site, and I'm sure he gets frustrated when his changes are insulted.
Aww Revive: Personally I didn't care if my quote got in. It was a lark that I wrote that. Ash used it, cool.
I'm tired of seeing people beat up Ash for making changes. Do I dislike some of them: Hell yeah. The war system needs to go. Have I stated that publicly? Yes I have.
Not exactly sure WHICH part of my post " you expected better of me" for. Does it seem strange that I swore? Like you did. Does it seem like I'm brown nosing? Hmmm I said give the BL system a chance, not that I liked it. It's been up for what an hour, 2? Don't know yet. The interest? I think it's better than people who are inactive, but have 6 mil in the bank , getting the max. The interest system was broken. People were getting outrageous amounts of money for doing nothing. NOTHING. OMG so now you have to rank up a bit to gain interest!!!!! OMG the older players have an advantage. Jesus give us something. I worked my ass off to get as high as I am, if that gives me a monetary advantage I say about damn time.
Or was it the anonymous comment? Well I'm tired of chickens chirping cusses and complaints and then being too damn scared to post their name. You all have internet balls. You going to make a negative comment, have the cohones to tell us who you are.
thats a fair comment an true but what a brown nose lol
There are plenty of them who are telling us to leave. Agree with ash or get out huh!!
P.s Guys, please stop being so immature seriously. If you don't like it, state why you don't.
And stop the personal attacks aye?
OH So the war system should go because you hate it guildy....BUT when someone hates something that you like we should just stfu right?
I would like to suggest maybe an little increase from money won from battles or a chance to steal money if you kill them. Just some ideas to compensate for the interest thing. :)
I'm not taking sides here, but if you don't like something can't you say it nicely and offer an alternative. You can't agree with somebody all the time, but don't attack them.
Complaining wont get you anywhere it will just lead to more arguing , if you dont like it leave or just say why you dont like it. Also say suggestions. This is Ash Website he can do as he pleases so stop the complaining and attacks at Ash he only wants to do his Site better.
That's not what Guildy's saying at all, people. Lots of selective reading going on here, methinks.
So enlighten us dim bulbed nitwits citizen ....Speak for guildy
Bl's are different that's for sure... will take getting used to but i think i will like it:) as for the interest im not so effected given my rank... and it will be nice to see those wanting more ranking and opening my killing field a bit:) changes happen.... all about adjusting... man up... time for the big boy pants:p.
sad to see some of the comments here... regardless of how it upsets people...
Comment on the interest reasoning-"Rank up and get more"? Why is this based on rank? I know that many can't just go battle and rank, since it'll practically be suicide since they can't go skipping off for their credit card every paycheck day to go spend another few hundred on this game. We do get some money, which is better than none, obviously, but there shouldn't something punishing those who just want to train their stats up. Yes, I could leave. Yes, I can take this. But this is a bit of a stupid idea.
Maybe you guys are right all of us that hate it and who dare speak up and voice our opinions. Maybe we should leave. Just pack up take our vip and plasma money and go give it elsewhere. Think ash would really like losing those rl bucks? So stop telling people to leave who disagree with you
Well. I see this is getting a lot of people worked up. Knew this would happen eventually.
For the Blood Letter System, it is a culture shock but I think it will be much nicer for those of us who actually rp in BL's. Easier to follow.
As for the quests, they drive me insane but they give me something to do while I'm sitting around on here.
I've been on the game for 2 years now. Yes, lots has changed but I mean there will be more changes. I see so many going on and on about this Interest crap. Yes, I am not as high as some of the other but I spent months only training and not battling. Not once did I complain about money. As it was mentioned before, if you are that far off, borrow from your coven. Maybe not having as much money will drop the prices in the market maybe. I am not one of the plasma munchers, never used plasma on my stats, and don't plan on it. But I mean, I will take what I am given until I have my stats where I want them and rank up so I can get more money and train again. Cause really, we should be glad Ash gives us anything. Some games give you no incentive.
Good job on all the hard work Ash. Keep it coming!
They're not telling you to leave moron. They say it's your choice. Don't like it leave. See a choice.
Anyone named anonymous should not be calling other people names.
I will speak for me. I used the war system as an example of something I dislike and spoke up about publicly. Maybe I should just be like all you anonymous haters and say it like this " The war system sucks ass, what the hell were you thinking Ash? Change it back now or everyone is going to leave your damn game". No I stated it plain and simple: I don't like it.I was not abusive to him or Spot. Unlike all you people who choose to stay anonymous cussing and swearing at the man.
Such a horrible thing has happened to all of you. Will you live?
First off, I love the inventory. That's one thing I feel was missing from the game.
Secondly, I like the new blood letter system too. I didn't have a problem with the old, but I guess it's nice to change things up once in a while.
Thirdly, as frustrating as the new quests are, it's going to be really exciting when people start finishing them. ;)
Fourthly, I really hate the new interest system. When a game is based on stats you have to use turns to train with, it's hard to fine the balance between battling and training. If the game is going to continue moving in a rank-based direction, could you maybe consider coming up with a different stat or bar or turn type thing for either training or battling?
Also, the 1% interest isn't exactly new. In a previous post in here, it said it was, but I've been playing for about a year and a half, and it's been in place at least that long.
It really does give an extra and unnecessary advantage to the players who have been playing a really long time which makes it that much harder on the new players. When ancient players are attacking lower players who have almost no hope in ever beating them, it's frustrating when the system becomes even harder on them. It's also hard when the only hope they have is buying insane amounts of VIP and plasma that the majority can't necessarily afford.
As for ideas, maybe you could add 1% or 1 tier to what they get when they complete certain achievements or quests, like Metal Man 1 & 2.
And to everyone who's posting multiple times, please, for the sake of the rest of us, transfer your arguments to BLs or something. Say your piece, and then let it go. Either people will agree with you and enough people will say the same thing to make a difference, or it won't. And if you start swearing at me, I won't know or care, because i will not be looking at this again because I am now informed and have given my opinion as calmly and concisely as I can.
@all complainers
This is a game anyways you put it , just because there are changes you dont like dont mean the world going to end.
Try getting used to it and you might like the changes.
thank you ash for working very hard to make this the best game
anyways i done saying what i had to say ^w^
Thanks Ash for the changes you Rock hmm a new layout would be cool*random suggestion*
Dream said.if you dont like it leave..
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DarkChaos said..If you don't like it then go create your own game, go join another game, or just go get a life.
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crimsonlust said...and u lil run at the mouths - stfu and play the game or dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!!!
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Amber said.As for anyone whining about interest changes. You know where the door is.
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Amber said...Points to the door. There it is, boy... :)
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Guildy 1 You sure they arent telling us to leave?? And why the moron name calling.Its below you Guildy. If you want to know who i am and continue in bls and you can stop with the name calling fine. But You know damn well why some of us do this anonymously. Dont play dumb. I like you we are both old players. But you know why.
http://reignofblood.net/forum.php?step=viewposts&thread=6977&limit=15
Should check out Jodas & maynes post.
They are in fact giving you a choice. The people that are commenting on here are not the only Reign Of Blood members. For all you know, a majority of RoB like it. If you don't however, then you could leave if you wanted to, or, continue playing an extremely enjoyable game, and not care so much about money.
One of the 7 Deadly Sins y'know ;)
Feel free to Bl me.
Why the moron? Because all the ones who are cussing anonymously at all those who don't have a problem with the changes, and treating Ash like he committed a carnel sin are being ridiculous. DO you all really think, I mean seriously that Ash will do something if you speak your minds? REALLY? Do you all NOT state your dislike of things in the game forums? That's scary. This is a game people.
It has happened maybe not ash but other staff ...You know its true and I have cussed at no one.
The bank interest change is horrible. There is no way smaller people can save or earn money. Look if people are abusing the interest and I think we'd all love to hear how this is being done, then give some warnings or something. Don't screw everyone over!
I think you meant "cardinal sin", Guildy. tee hee.
LOL I knew that sounded wrong in my head. :D
For people who think lower ranks are getting punished. That is not the case. The average banked money for those ranks are what the caps are set too!
I like the Bl system, except for the fact that I can't search bl's anymore, but I can always save, but what really bothers me is the interest system. Yes, I know it's a gift, but I'm rank 60 and get a max of 40K interest. I understand the need to take money out and the younger players, I understand, but why punish all of the older players who are still balancing out stats? Doesn't seem too fair to me.
What about a bonus for number of days in the game?
No-one's TELLING anyone to leave. They are stating that you have the OPTION to leave. You're all so rah-rah about stating your opinion, how about letting others state theirs as well?
As for the changes, I'm willing to give them a chance before I scream blue murder.
Wow screw this nerf on the bank interest. good going idiot
You see in black and white where they have said leave if you dont like it....And i have not said that they dont have a right to their opinion.But we have a right to ours without being told to leave if you dont like it.
Their OPINION is suggesting you leave if you dont like it. You can't argue you have a right to your opinion, positive or negative, and then say someone doesn't have the same right to suggest their opinion is you leave if you dont like something.
It's a circular argument, in any case.
That sucks ass, Ash. The banking system... I was using my interest to pay back my coven loan, and now I have to wait longer. It doesn't help that all the AP and such are over priced in my opinion. Plasma can be expensive, considering it's so precious... But damn... Why did you have to go and change that? Now I have to spend precious turns on battling, as well as trying to train so I can take out people of my rank and higher... Thanks a lot.
I like the Blood letter system though. It works almost like Google mail, by how you explained it.
Anonymous said...
No-one's TELLING anyone to leave
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Anonymous said...
Their OPINION is suggesting you leave if you dont like it.
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Splitting hairs a little? Lol
Ash, Those of us with faulty memories need the BL system as it was. I could always go back and refresh my memory of the content of certain conversations. Most just leave "None" as the subject, and that alone won't help at all. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Why can't you leave well enough alone?
"This entire thing reeks of Spot. It seems like the King Dipshit of Reign of Blood had this groovy idea that, since he is poor in the real world as well as on here, he might as well find a way to make others suffer." - Some kid too scared to show his name
$93,100,000 : Aftershock “Spot” (49296)
If you think 93mill is 'poor', then why do you care so much about 60k? :S
I like the new banking system. It rewards players who play the game. You kill, you rank, you get richer. Too many players log in only to train and socialize. This gives more incentive for players to rank which benefits the game and less incentive to remain at a low rank with high stats which benefits individuals and not the entire blood thirsty community. It will also reduce the price of items in the market because there won't be as much money in the game.
I do feel for the fledglings. It would be nice if there were more fluctuation in Gravemarket and a few other changes to give them a chance to earn money.
It's about the bigger picture which it appears many players fail to comprehend with all the panties in knots.
I love how Spot gets the blame~ lmao ~pets~
and all the other stuff remains to be seen as it will take some time.
~dashes off to send some gifts with interest money from Floyd~
Okay to begin I never really paid any attention to the interest one way or another. I can just kill another vamp for more funds...lol As for the new metal man mission and the v quest I am always up for a challenge. No so sure about the blood letter thread though as I do not like the idea of my private words just hanging out there..hmm The gift idea sounds fine and I will just check out the rest at my leisure...
"No so sure about the blood letter thread though as I do not like the idea of my private words just hanging out there..hmm"
The threads are kept private only to the people who you send them to. The only time anyone else would read them is if it is reported as spam (or if the sender/receiver copies and pastes the message to someone else, but that's the same as in the old system)
Blows my mind how many suggestions there are on the suggestion forum that have yet to be addressed in any way what so ever and yet here we get this crap.
I like the changes, but the bank interest one sucks. Why punish everyone for the abuse from a few?
Hey Ash and Everyone else,
I would like to comment on everything in this blog.
Firstly, the UGC Cards don’t really apply to me so I really wouldn’t see any difference in this change.
Secondly, the rank up notice will be nice because I don’t know how many times I had like 200 blood over the max and it didn’t rank me up. Thank you for fixing this glitch, it will really help.
Thirdly, the inventory I don’t get gifts so I really wouldn’t understand how that could affect a person either. From most of the comments so far I see the inventory may be very helpful in reducing confusion and lost items. Way to go.
Fourthly, the Blood Letter changes should make the letters more organized and simpler to follow. Though it may seem difficult to understand now, over time it will become easier and more comprehensible. Good idea!
Fifthly, the interest changes seem to have a few problems. While I don’t actually care about how much interest I receive a day (always appreciated anyway), I can understand some of the comments made in frustration. The rank 1-9 only the first 100,000 gets interest, could it be bumped up to possibly 200,000? I am over this tier, but I know that when I was in it I had made over 100,000 and it would seem understandable that many other people may also make over this amount. I believe the other tiers are quite agreeable because as you progress into the higher tiers you get a lot more money from your battles.
I would like to make a few suggestions that may ease a bit of the tension though. I know that when I first started the game I had a very hard time understanding the system, so it is understandable to me that many other new players may also have the same situation. I know that the new training section has been implemented, so that should help quite a bit. However, if the newcomers were given, let’s say $100 to start off with it may help them get their money rolling.
Some incentives/bonuses that could be offered would be to hide extra interest (possibly immediately added) in The Underground or the floors of The Dark Tower. I also think completing the harder quests that take weeks/months to complete, like The Metal Man I/II and the Potionmaker, should have an added bonus of a week of doubled interest with a doubled cap for that tier. I think this will allow for a bit of extra play in The Dark Tower and The Underground. Also maybe you could add a few extra quests with the added bonuses of extra interest ranging from a onetime add to a week adding.
Another commenter had offered a suggestion of possibly offering different bank options with different amounts of interest. I would like to also suggest that the first bank option shouldn’t cost anything and offer a 1% interest. The second bank option should cost $100,000, but set the option to certain days in the game limits (like you have to have been playing the game for over 100 days), and offer 2% interest. You could also offer a special bonus for VIP/VIP+ players.
Also I am not sure if it would be an option but maybe adding an incentive, money/QP/AP/added skill points, for completing a quest list (not and achievement list because you already have incentives on those).
I would also like to suggest possibly offer two different sets of turn systems; battle turns and training turns.
As for all of the people whom have voice their opinions on how horrible these changes are, I would just like to ask that you voice your opinions more politely. In any good argument you should always attack the argument not the person. If you don’t like the changes voice your opinion and offer alternatives that may be more agreeable. Calling people names and cussing at them is simply childish and inappropriate.
As for Ash, thank you for the wonderful game. While many may not like the changes made, they are sometime necessary changes and you shouldn’t let the people get you down or upset you.
DarkChaos said...
I would like to suggest maybe an little increase from money won from battles or a chance to steal money if you kill them. Just some ideas to compensate for the interest thing. :)
23 September 2010 01:13
Finally, a post that's actually looking at possible solutions instead of whining or bickering. A thumbs up to you, sir or madam! c^
I don't like all the changes, but as Ash said, they're only in the testing stages now. Doesn't mean they'll stay the way they are.
Or how about adding a "Bank Robbing" feature, giving people a (small) chance at stealing from another player's account. However, they would have to gamble a certain amount of their own money, which the one being robbed would instead receive if the robber fails. Just a thought. It could also serve as another sort of battle system for people who want to play the role of an infamous thief. ;)
Maybe even adding a feature for battling that you wage your own money on and the opponent wages money on and whoever wins get the money from both sides?
Pathetic. The lot of you. Blaming Spot, lol, the law enforcers are never popular. Moaning about the interest, lol, seriously, 60k is peanuts for one person, but if you get several, who are registered simply to bring yourself that 60k, a day, well, that's a lot and complete bullshit. The 300day person with only 2mill? Gaming really isnt for you... BLV3 has been worked on for over two weeks of testing tweaking improving, it is a lot better.
But as Guildy put it so wonderfully, people dislike changes. Well tough shit, they are here to stay. There have been many things, as Guildy has said, those older than you moanalots know about, removed.
Three words:
Live with it.
...It's only a game!
jesus h fucking christ people!! can you lighten up its only a game and if you dont like it stop playing...there are plenty of other vampire rpgs out there! and if you think RoB is so bad why dont you create your own?!?
Other than the loss of BL's the whole thing is cool I love the layout of it too. I also dislike that the BL threads will be getting deleted every 30 days and if possible i would like it if you could make the new BL notifications to be in Italics as it was with the old BL's cause I tried holding a few and couldn't tell which notifications were new and which were old. If you could make the notifications to be in Italics when they are still unread it would be very helpful. Thank you
i love all the changes.to you lazy ass's rank up and earn you cash for a change.
Overall it's OK. Sure, the BL system is a bit eurgh but only as you can't actually delete the "thread" when you want, you have to wait until 30 days are up. (This is so he can read them, I guess?) Is there also a link to said "thread" if you delete the "new unread mail" by accident or to clear room?
All Looks good so far Ash. Keep up the good work. ^^ <3
Lol @ the hate comments..
How about an option to get money for daily quests!? Just as a one of three chances - blood, stats or money? According the value of stats it might be a considerable amount, like at least 100 k ;)
I'd much rather stats <3
Lol I love how so many are blaming Spot.
What I want to know is what this so called "abuse" of the interest system is? I don't see how it got abused at all. maybe you could actually enlighten us as to your reasoning?
"Bank Robbing" Big no- Its already going to be difficult for newer players to get money without having to have that money stolen.
I think the "abuse" being referred to is the the way that covens give their newest members 5/6 million gold to both help them out and expand their money base. After all, money in the coven bank actually does nothing. Better to have it earning interest somewhere else.
That said, this is a real pity for those of us like me who built their way up to $5 million on our own RL time and in-game startup capital. It took me about two, maybe 3 months, but I did it, mostly on the Gravemarket, actually. The bank interest helps me with the risk, but gains on the Gravemarket really dwarf interest and battling. It doesn't take much to do better than the 1% per diem yield you get on interest. I'd recommend instead of the current system, which caps interest-earning money, implementing variable interest rates based on rank and bank holdings.
Really, I'm not very active of a player; I train with all my turns, and make money on the Gravemarket.
im ok with almost everything except the new changes with the bank interest. As a coven owner to a small coven that basically just started its kinda hard for us to get any money especially where im probably the highest rank and im only level 20 , how are we gonna save any money for weapons for new members? This is gonna be extremely hard now...
Spot is a dumb fuck and should be beat upon at every opportunity.
I don't like change!
I'm a little puzzled as to the push to have players rank up. Game strategy dictates it is better to rank slowly and train to be a stronger player. This change promotes ranking above all and you will have a bunch of weak high level players.. (unless they spend RL money for plasma.. hmmmm) The changes to the banking system create and imbalance to the game.. lower ranking players will now be less able to compete and those who enjoy playing the game economy will be crippled to do so. I don't see either thing as a positive move for the direction of the game. Im holding back on comments to the BL system as I have only dealt with it once.
Ash,
I get full interest because I'm in the top rank/interest tier, but at first I still thought the interest cap sucked. It takes away another way to 'strategise', another way to earn stats aka *aditional* AP than what you get from ranking. Taking that away from new players weakens the game. If a new player borrows money to get the top interest, it could be a good thing because it encourages them to find a friend or join a coven. Also, until *now* you could hold rank and train, plus older players would have already gotten the top interest when they were noobs. It's slow-going as it is when you're a noob to rank up and train up, so why slow it down further? The supposed 'good' it is doing seems greatly outweighed. The only saving grace is that everyone is able to eventually reach the top tier, and I guess the incentive to battle and rank up could be interesting.
On the other hand, if you want to stick with this you might be on to something that will make the game much better.. I would definitely love to see new ways to earn money, or change your interest- so much potential.. I think everyone was kind of hit over the head with this change and it would have caused a lot less grief if there were adequate ways to earn cash besides the gravemarket, the workplace, and battling.
Please add cash to existing features. It could seriously help to fully realise what you're trying to accomplish. I appologise if I'm reapeating other ideas but here's some suggestions:
-jobs (some improvements to the workplace idea would be great if you could do small tasks to earn money)
-small increase in cash from battling, GT graveyard, dark tower, and underground
-cash from hunting in SV, or VH
-option to get cash from quests, especially daily quests instead of blood. Or even better, small quests that just give cash, simply
-more fluctuation in gravemarket
As for the new BLs.. it reminds me to much of that emo site Gaia Online, I sincrely miss the old.
Last but not least, I haven't checked it out yet but inventory is a really great idea! Yes pls.
Raine 256896
Personally, I don't have a problem with people posting anonymously. I think it's fucking hilarious to see ppl bitch at them for doing so because there's nothing they can do about it. XD These people have real issues they want to get out, and they don't feel comfortable attaching their name to it. That doesn't make them cowards, it just makes them cautious. They fear retaliation, and while I don't think the staff (most of them at least) would stoop to that, the anonymous folk have a right to express themselves in a way that they feel safe and comfortable. Some people don't like that because they want to know who to direct their anger at if they don't agree, but tough tittie XD
By all means, please continue to bitch about them though. I enjoy the entertainment :)
New BL system... so far I think I like it. For the people that are always asking about a private message system to be made available on RoB, you might want to embrace this. It's likely the closest you will see to that.
New interest system... doesn't really affect me coz I'm top tier, but personally I think anyone who is below top tier and held vip at the time this went into effect just got fucked. Ash will argue differently (if he responds at all) but the value returned for what they paid for based on the terms they understood at the time of purchase just went down significantly.
the inventory is a good idea.. adding a market for the inventory items would be even better.
"Game strategy dictates it is better to rank slowly and train to be a stronger player" ... "It is possible to rank effectively while continuing to train your stats in the gym. Figure it out." <-- And I'm not the only one to think such a statement is absurd. Noob.
~Scream of Happiness - I am going to be richer that you! It's about time there were some benefits for high ranks. Shut up you lazy sluts and play the damn game.
"Game strategy dictates it is better to rank slowly and train to be a stronger player" ... "It is possible to rank effectively while continuing to train your stats in the gym. Figure it out." <---NO!!! Time to adapt! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Hum, well. I'm a little shocked at some of the immaturity of some of the players. Just like things in Real Life, there are changes. If you can't handle change that's not the developers issue, its YOURS. Simply, if you're not able to change and dislike it that much, come up with your OWN game.
So, before anyone bitches at me, the only reason i'm back here is 'cuz there's a slight bug in the new BL system.
The "Next 15 Blood Letters" link, at least I think that's what it says, is cut off. Only part of it shows.
Anonymous said...
"Bank Robbing" Big no- Its already going to be difficult for newer players to get money without having to have that money stolen.
23 September 2010 12:10
As with battling, new players could be protected from being robbed for several days or even weeks. Why would you want to steal from newbies anyway? They don't really have enough cash to make mugging them worth it. ;)
In addition, Ash could probably implement an ability to buy extra security for one's vault so they're completely protected from thievery for, like, a week or so.
1. I hate people who say "if you don't like it you can leave". OBVIOUSLY a person can leave if they decide that a game is no longer fun. If somebody cares enough about the game to post their frustration, they don't want to hear stfu and accept it or leave. And yes, that is your opinion and everyone is entitled to one. #whatthefluckeveryoubrainlesstwat.
2. Ash has stated that this is all still in beta. Already there are some good suggestions/alternatives re: interest. I personally love the idea of stealing money from vampires you kill in battle. To make this more of a happy/rainbows/unicorns suggestion, maybe players could opt in to steal from others, but then they could also be stolen from. And only money in hand, not bank.
3. I love the gifts/inventory. Please send me interesting things.
Put me down as a hater. Hate the new bls and the new interest system.The gift/inventory idea is ok.
Ash,
First I must apologize, I gave up on reading all the comments due to their lack of civility on the most part. Second, if this has been stated before, forgive me since I didn't read all the comments.
I do have a suggestion, this new system hurts covens just as much as it does individual players because I believe that donations will become more limited. With that in mind, do you think there would be a way you could incorporate a small interest on what the coven holds? Even 1% would be better than nothing.
I am not sure about the individual interest thing. I can understand why you are trying to limit the money in the game, but for the lower rank, it does make it extremely difficult. Other than that, I'm just gonna go searching for more screws. *bangs head on wall*
Tasha Wolf
wtg- i like it
I don't use blood letters much so I can't say one way or the other about that.
The interest changes are discouraging to say the least. There has been a lot of talk about interest being free money and to be grateful we get it at all. I can see this point of view, but from the standpoint of someone grinding hard for the express purpose of hitting that 6m mark it's more than free money, it's a reward for a good deal of hard work and putting off making other parts of the game easier in favor of getting the bottom line comfortable. It's always hard to see your work become less fruitful.
In the end it will just mean working in different ways and personally I'm a couple weeks from L75 anyway so I imagine I won't give a damn. For now, I definitely weigh in on the side of the frustrated.
If the goal is to get people to earn and use money through ranking faster perhaps retuning how money is paid out via winning battles would be a good counterbalance to this change. /shrug
Everyone has right to an opinion, so here is mine...I think that yes to a degree, the lower lvls are getting a bad deal, but it will stop the lazy players from getting the same amount. The harder you work the better the outcome. That's how real life works, so why should the game be run any easier? Everything else is pretty cool. At first the BL was a dumb idea, but it is easier once you figure it out...As for presents, woohoo about damn time! I am married and get presents once in a awhile, and it would have been nice to see the gifts in my inventory. But Ash, all the gifts I had previously gotten, should be there, and it erased them all :P This game is filled with tons of drama and it's going to be better for the players that actually want to level and not just socialize. This is a rpg/pvp game, not facebook. :D WOW!!! some of these comments just go on and on, like a broken record. Yes we get your pissed...tell them your two cents and get on it with it. What's done is done, no point in making it worse. As for the card, don't know what it is, where to get it, so I could care less. The Quests haven't done the first two yet, so I cannot say either way about it. While I do find there are tons of brown nosers in the game, why stir up trouble? There are favorites in the game because they were the first clique and are the highest players...stick around maybe one day you might be one of them lmao
Ok I wrote the first comment on this thing and now I've gone through and read a good portion of what everyone else had to say, just to see if i was alone on this. But I must say I agree with Revive-Interest 1000%
And its not right how Ash is telling us we need to calm down but the people who have their heads so far up ashes ass dont get shit. The New Interest system Blows. Just like Spot.
And since this is only the first run through Im hoping Ash is planning on making changes to the Interest system more.
Also you would Ash, I'd Really love it if we could Declare war on other covens as much as we want to, and not have a set limit of a certain amount of times per week. Thanks.
ash u do realise that u pissed off atleast 90% of ppl on this game by doing that
^^^ Lmfao.. true.
He knows he just doesnt care.
Crying over <$60k/day. Which is peanuts for individuals, sad, awfully sad.
90%...Laugh...Out...Loud...Tissue's required for those who can't play.
As I said before the average in bank money per player per rank is around what the caps are. Some of you are looking at it as if every person has 6mil in the bank.
So now people that are training instead of killing get less money? :O It's hard enough living on the money we have while training, see as we don't earn any through killing anyway.
Also, I paid for VIP expecting to get a nicee sum of money per day. And now I get nothing. Wonderful.
Secondly, The BL System is terrible.
I was just wondering if we could have an option to turn off the news delivery when we receive the bank interest.
The changes to bank interest does not bother me and I kind of like it, I do not send a ton of blood letters but it is just a new system and once people get used to it they will stop complaining.
I'm kind of curious what "living" needs to be done? You're vip so you don't have to pay to heal, or travel. So What Living Needs Money on a game about dead things? If you're training you don't require too much equipment, or rubies for said equipment.
I just think people are taking this far too seriously. This is not like money in the real world where you need to eat and pay bills and rent Etc.
After using the BL system for a little time, I now like it. It's smooth and works well.
Screw the complainers, Ash!!!! If it is that easy for the whiners to complain about changes, then they should make their OWN game. Their is the Lottery, Gravemarket, a whole lot of other ways to make money on this game. Everything else takes time to getting used to....Keep up the Great Work.
Imp (89075)
new bl system craps out each time i try to reply to someone. thumbs down.
By living, I mean getting money for plasma and AP and weapons. Even if I do love my +2's.
nice job and keep writeing them ash!
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